Wednesday, December 15, 2010

EC 2010 Rules Question

The head judge of the EC 2010 (Pascal) compiled a list of (rules) question he was asked during the various events of the EC.

This list is exhaustive. No questions were erased because its answer were too trivial (or merely "cardtext"). The answers he gives here are more complete than the answers he gave in the event. Mainly, he tried to answer "Yes" or "No" with, when necessary, some details, but without the part where "it would be better to" or "you can also" gets added.

The questions that were asked more than once were about Antediluvian Awakening's cardtext (When exactly can I burn a vampire? What's the minimum capacity?) and Madness Network / Enkil Cog etiquette (about 4-5 times each).
  • Question: Can Demonstration cancel a Priscus' vote in the Priscii subreferendum ?
  • Answer: Yes. Reference in VtES Usenet Newsgroup

  • Question: Can I play Special Report on an untapped vampire?
  • Answer: Yes. It doesn't require a tapped vampire.

  • Question: I control Orlando Oriundus and Stavros. There is no other Priscus. How many votes can I cast in a vote?
  • Answer: 1 for Orlando Oriundus and 1 for Stavros, tallying up to 5 votes without any other Priscus.

  • Question: My library is empty. I play Visit from the Capuchin. Do I burn counters when my library is empty?
  • Answer: Yes. You would replace a card when you don't have handsize cards in your hand. (I got this one wrong)

  • Question: I play Govern the Unaligned, replace Seduction. Can I play Seduction?
  • Answer: Yes. The "as announced" window happens after the replacement of the action card.

  • Question: I play Entrancement, replace Strange Day. Can I play Strange Day?
  • Answer: Yes. The "as announced" window happens after the replacement of the action card.

  • Question: Can I play Daring the Dawn after resolving the action?
  • Answer: No. Action modifiers can't be played after resolution (as usual, unless cardtext says they can, per the Golden Rule of cardtext)

  • Question: What's the change with the new Madness Network cardtext?
  • Answer: Using the sequencing rules makes the acting player get the impulse after another player performs an action.

  • Question: Can I tap the Coven during my untap phase, untap it with all my cards, and tap it again?
  • Answer: No. Untapping your cards is the first thing you do during your untap phase.

  • Question: Can I play Enrage inferior or superior on a vampire with a Sire's Index Finger?
  • Answer: Yes. Reference in VtES Usenet Newsgroup

  • Question: Does the Soul Gem of Etrius trigger if I diablerize its bearer?
  • Answer: Yes. Cardtext has been changed since VTES. Reference in VtES Usenet Newsgroup

  • Question: Can Nephandus prevent one from Catatonic Fear?
  • Answer: Yes. Reference in VtES Usenet Newsgroup

  • Question: Can I Amaranth a vampire with 1 blood when my strike is 3 agg?
  • Answer: No. He isn't sent to torpor and burns right away.

  • Question: If I steal 1 blood from a vampire with 1 blood striking with a Zip Gun, and I have no blood, do I go to torpor? Do I gain 1 blood and lose it? Does he go to torpor?
  • Answer: You gain 1 blood (stolen) and burn 1 blood to heal 1 damage. He loses 1 blood (stolen) and gets wounded (sent to torpor).

  • Question: Does Telepathic Vote Counting untap the acting vampire?
  • Answer: No. It doesn't say it does.

  • Question: Are "retainers" mortal retainers?
  • Answer: No. Retainers with no type have no type.

  • Question: Can I play Deep Song superior on a tapped vampire?
  • Answer: Yes. "Tap X and enter combat with X" doesn't require X to be untapped.

  • Question: Does the vote to burn the Fee Stake reduce a Priscus' votes?
  • Answer: No. Reference in VtES Usenet Newsgroup

  • Question: Can I press in round N with the Aid From Bats played in round N-1 ?
  • Answer: No. Maneuvers and presses from a combat card are only usable in the round in which the combat card is played.

  • Question: Can I tap Vagabond Mystic during an action?
  • Answer: Yes.

  • Question: Can I tap Vagabond Mystic during combat?
  • Answer: Yes.

  • Question: What is the timing to discard cards to cancel Target Vitals?
  • Answer: It can be canceled as it is played, which is before it is replaced. You need 2 combat cards in your hand (you can't discard one, replace, and discard the second).

  • Question: Deflection is canceled by Two Wrongs. With a Wake with Evening's Freshness + Deflection on the same action, is deflection canceled? Can I attempt to block?
  • Answer: The second Deflection is canceled by Two Wrongs. Block attempts have been declined, so there can't be a new block attempt (unless the target of the bleed changes).

  • Question: Can I boost a bleed with Virginie's special ability after playing Foreshadowing Destruction?
  • Answer: Yes. Using Virginie's special ability isn't playing an action modifier.

  • Question: Can I play Hostile Takeover if my Ventrue is in torpor?
  • Answer: No. Master cards with a clan requirement require a ready vampire of that clan.

  • Question: Does Charnas burn an empty minion in torpor?
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  • Answer: No. Reference in VtES Usenet Newsgroup

  • Question: Can I play Deflection before I get tapped by inferior Spirit Marionnette?
  • Answer: Yes. The tapping from inferior Spirit Marionnette is part of the resolution of the action, which happens after players declined to play Deflection.

  • Question: Can I play Touch of Clarity with an untapped minion I control when I control the acting minion?
  • Answer: Yes, even if that untapped minion isn't the acting minion.

  • Question: Can I play Psyche! after a combat with an Illusions of the Kindred?
  • Answer: No. Reference in VtES Usenet Newsgroup

  • Question: My prey is on 1 pool, I am on 3. My Edward Vignes has 2 blood and a Fame. Can I bleed with Daring the Dawn, and oust my prey without being ousted?
  • Answer: Yes. First resolve the bleed, and then inflict aggravated damage to Edward Vignes (eventually triggering the Fame).

  • Question: I play a political action card and play Day Operation. Is the referendum conducted?
  • Answer: Yes. The referendum is part of the resolution of the action.

  • Question: Can I use the Coven during combat?
  • Answer: Yes (but not in the middle of damage resolution).

  • Question: Can I play a Babble with my vampire with Dementation in torpor ?
  • Answer: No. Only ready vampires can play reaction cards.

  • Question: Can I attempt to block after playing Telepathic Counter?
  • Answer: Yes. Telepathic Counter (as opposed to superior Telepathic Misdirection) can be played before block attempts are declared, after block attempts are declared, or even after block attempts are declined.

  • Question: What is the exact timing of Enkil Cog?
  • Answer: You play it after successfully bleeding (same as for Freak Drive). Then, use the sequencing rule to determine when you can attempt an action with Enkil Cog.

  • Question: Theft of Vitae superior vs Theft of Vitae sup when both vampires are at full capacity: who gains / loses blood?
  • Answer: They both lose and gain 2 blood. They end up at full capacity after this strike resolution.

  • Question: Do I play Direct Intervention on the Govern the Unaligned after or before declaring a block attempt?
  • Answer: Direct Intervention is played as the Govern the Unaligned is played, which is before block attempts are declared. It's even before the Govern gets replaced. It's even before the acting minion taps.

  • Question: Can I tap the Dreams of the Sphinx in combat after strike declaration and before strike resolution? Can I play the Rotschreck I'd draw?
  • Answer: Yes. And yes.

  • Question: What's the capacity requirement for Approximation of Loyalty?
  • Answer: It requires a vampire with capacity 7 or more (KoT misprint).

  • Question: Pentweret steals a vampire with his strike. The other vampire's strike is hands. Can the other vampire play Disarm?
  • Answer: No. The change of control happens during the strike resolution and it ends the combat. At the end of the round, both vampires have the same controller.

  • Question: Does Flesh of Marble prevent Drawing out the Beast's damage?
  • Answer: No. You can't prevent unpreventable damage (exception: Rutor's Hand).

  • Question: Can I play a second Kine Resources Contested with the same vampire if the first one got DI'ed?
  • Answer: "Yes" (if DI stands for Direct Intervention). "No" (if it stands for Dark Influence).

  • Question: Can I tap the Barrens during an action?
  • Answer: Yes.

  • Question: Direct Intervention on Mirror Walk. Can I replace Mirror Walk?
  • Answer: Yes. Its cardtext is canceled, including the part where you don't replace it.

  • Question: Can I concede the game if I already have 3 VPs (and the GW)?
  • Answer: Yes. The Play To Win rule is to get the game win. Once you have the game win, you are free to do whatever you want to keep it. That is: withdraw, concede, or continue playing are all OK.

  • Question: If my inferior Govern the Unaligned is canceled with Dark Influences, can I bleed with this vampire?
  • Answer: Yes.

  • Question: Can I play Wash and then Sudden Reversal during the same player's master phase?
  • Answer: No. A Methuselah can play only one Master: out of turn before his master phase.

  • Question: Stanislava is acting. Do I get +1 intercept with my Raptor?
  • Answer: Yes. Stanislava's special ability only affects animal retainers in combat.

  • Question: Can Psyche! be played after Blissful Agony?
  • Answer: No. A new combat is already queued, so you can't squeeze another one in between.

  • Question: Can a vampire perform both actions from Kaymakli Fragment on the same turn?
  • Answer: Yes. Reference in VtES Usenet Newsgroup

  • Question: The controller of Rumors of Gehenna is ousted. Do I still get 2 MPAs?
  • Answer: No. Similarly, the chosen Methuselah(s) won't get 2 MPAs if the Rumors are burned.

  • Question: Can I play Villein on an empty vampire?
  • Answer: Yes. You move 0 blood.

  • Question: Am I still wounded in the second round of combat if I played Undead Persistence in the first?
  • Answer: Yes.

  • Question: Can I play Eagle's Sight without declaring a block attempt?
  • Answer: No, Eagle's Sight is a block attempt.

  • Question: Can I play Gremlins on a vampire's equipment if that vampire has a Secure Haven?
  • Answer: Yes. Secure Haven only protects the minion it is on, not other cards (equipment, retainers, or even the Secure Haven itself) that also are on the minion.

  • Question: I play Spirit Marionnette on Tupdog. I have a Heidelberg Castle and no other untapped minion. I don't control a ready Tremere. When does Tupdog's control changes?
  • Answer: After the next action, if it didn't burn at the end of your minion phase.

  • Question: Can I use the Vagabond Mystic's special ability during damage resolution?
  • Answer: No. http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/9e8e...

  • Question: When can I use Hide the Heart at inferior during an action?
  • Answer: It can be played at any time before resolution, but only after the "as announced" window. That is: You can play it whenever you could declare a block attempt, and after blocks have been declined. Reference in VtES Usenet Newsgroup

  • Question: Can I use Maris Streck's special to give Unleash Hell's Fury some intercept?
  • Answer: Yes. Unleash Hell's Fury is considered as a vampire during the block attempt.

  • Question: Tenebrous Form has been played. Can I attempt to block with Carlton Van Wyk?
  • Answer: No. Carlton van Wyk cannot "burn 1 blood".

  • Question: My Wash was Suddened. Do I get to play a Master in my turn?
  • Answer: No. Canceled trifles don't award another MPA.

  • Question: If a Laibon becomes Bahari, is he still a Laibon?
  • Answer: Yes. Bahari is not a sect, it's a trait (as are "Red List", "Advanced", ..)

  • Question: I am bled for 1. I play Telepathic Counter at sup. If the acting player plays Eyes of Chaos at superior, is it a bleed for 1 or for 2 ?
  • Answer: When you play superior Telepathic Counter on a bleed for 1, it becomes a bleed for -1. When you add superior Eyes of Chaoes, it becomes a bleed for 1.

  • Question: Can I play Taste of Vitae and then press?
  • Answer: No. The press step is before the end of the round.

  • Question: Can I play Telepathic Misdirection after Spying Mission is burned for +2 bleed?
  • Answer: No. Spying Mission burns at resolution, when Telepathic Misdirection can't be played anymore.

  • Question: Can I play a Govern the Unaligned if someone played a Touch of Clarity on a Govern the Unaligned I played this turn ?
  • Answer: Yes.

  • Question: Can I play Fake Out to maneuver to long range?
  • Answer: Sure.

  • Question: My Mind Rape was cancelled by Veil of Darkness. Am I tapped?
  • Answer: No. Veil of Darkness cancels the action card before the acting vampire taps.

  • Question: My vampire with Anathema and 1 blood plays Slam to maneuver. Does he burn before strike resolution?
  • Answer: Yes. He burns in the "determine range" step.

  • Question: I control Rachel Brandywine. Do I get to put back into my library the cards I discard to Fragment of the Book of Nod?
  • Answer: Yes, if you tapped the Fragment during your discard phase.

  • Question: Can a vampire without Enkil Cog play Mask of a Thousand Faces on the action of the vampire with Enkil Cog during another player's turn ?
  • Answer: No. The vampire without Enkil Cog couldn't declare the action card in the first place.

  • Question: Can I play Familial Bond on an action at 0 stealth (and I have 0 intercept) ?
  • Answer: No. Intercept cannot be gained when not necessary.

  • Question: Can I play a Freak Drive after replacing my Bum's Rush?
  • Answer: No. When Bum's Rush is replaced, the action has ended: you can't play action modifiers after the end of the action.

  • Question: Can I play Power of All on a Nephandus brought to play via Antonio d'Erlette's ability?
  • Answer: No. The Nephandus card isn't played.

  • Question: I play Earth Meld, but my vampire gets Rotschrecked. Do I untap my vampire before going to torpor?
  • Answer: No. Rotschreck ends the combat before strike resolution.

  • Question: Can I tap the Dreams of the Sphinx in response to a player declining the block (in order to draw Conditioning) ?
  • Answer: You can tap the Dreams of the Sphinx when the impulse comes back to you, which happens either when a player declares a block attempt, or when all players decline attempting to block.

  • Question: I play Majesty, and the opposing guy plays Catatonic Fear: Does my vampire untap and take 1 damage?
  • Answer: Yes. And he untaps.

  • Question: Can I play Eyes of Argus to attempt to block the action to burn my Madness Network?
  • Answer: At superior: Yes. Reference in VtES Usenet Newsgroup. At inferior: Only if intercept is needed.

  • Question: If I control a protected ressources, and someone bleeds me for 1 and burns the Spying Mission, how much pool do I burn?
  • Answer: The bleed is for 3, but you only burn 2.

  • Question: Can I influence on the crypt card brought to my uncontrolled region on the turn the Anarch Convert brings it into my uncontrolled region ?
  • Answer: No. You first spend transfers, and then move out the influenced minions. Reference in VtES Usenet Newsgroup

  • Question: Can I use Anarch Convert to convert anarch an Anarch Convert?
  • Answer: Yes. Anarch Convert can convert Anarch vampires.

  • Question: Can I play Conditioning if the target of the bleed plays Telepathic Counter?
  • Answer: Yes. You get the impulse back.

  • Question: If Sargon successfully performs the second action to burn the Seeds of Corruption, do I get the Edge?
  • Answer: Yes.

  • Question: Can I recruit two different allies with the same vampire in one turn?
  • Answer: Yes. The NRA restricts you to one Warghoul per turn per vampire, but you can recruit a Repo Man and a Warghoul on the same turn with the same vampire.

  • Question: Xeper tries to steal a Warghoul. Warghoul burns to burn a Metro Underground. There is no block. Does Xeper gain 1 blood from Perfectionist?
  • Answer: Yes. The action is not blocked, so it is successful. It fizzles due to a lack of target, but Xeper still gets his blood from Perfectionist. Reference in VtES Usenet Newsgroup

  • Question: I play Grooming the Protege selecting my ready vampire with a Secure Haven and a younger vampire of the same clan in my uncontrolled. Does this cost me 1 pool?
  • Answer: Yes. Choosing a vampire with a Secure Haven for Grooming the Protege (or Tend the Flock, or the Rack) increases the cost of that master by 1 pool.

  • Question: Can I attempt to rescue the same vampire from torpor twice in a single turn with the same vampire?
  • Answer: Yes. NRA doesn't apply to rescue from torpor.

  • Question: Does the bidding for Hostile Takeover go clockwise?
  • Answer: No. The default format for any bidding is open format. (re-checked, and it didn't change since 1999)

  • Question: If the blocking minion has a Sniper Rifle, can the acting minion set the range in the before range step, before the blocking minion gets the opportunity to do so ?
  • Answer: Yes. And if the acting minion sets the range, the blocking minion can't re-set it (the acting minion can't re-set it either).

  • Question: Can I play Mind of the Wilds before block attempts get to be declared? If there is no block attempt, is there any effect?
  • Answer: Yes (at inferior). If there is no block attempt, its cardtext is: "[ani][aus] "

  • Question: If my Wash is Suddened, do I replace it?
  • Answer: Yes. Cardtext of cancelled cards is cancelled, even the part where you don't replace them.

  • Question: The vampire targetted by the Rack got banished. Does the rack move blood to him in the uncontrolled region?
  • Answer: No. Reference in VtES Usenet Newsgroup

  • Question: If Mata Hari plays SchreckNET, does she untap?
  • Answer: Yes. SchreckNET considers her as a Nosferatu for the resolution of the card. Since she's a 7-cap, SchreckNET sees her as a 7-cap Nosferatu, so it untaps her.

  • Question: I played On the Qui Vive and Familial Bond. The action is successful. Can I enter combat with the acting vampire after resolution?
  • Answer: No. "Tap to enter combat" requires an untapped minion.

  • Question: Can I cancel the combat due to Yawp Court with Crypt's Sons?
  • Answer: No. The combat due to Yawp Court doesn't result of a successful block.

  • Question: Can I play Tier of Soul inferior on a vampire with no blood?
  • Answer: Yes. The target is the minion, not the blood counters.

  • Question: Is High Stakes legal in the First Chance Qualifier?
  • Answer: No.

  • Question: If the result is 2-2-1-0-0, is there a GW?
  • Answer: No. You need 2 VPs (or more) and strictly more than other Methuselahs to get the GW.

  • Question: Can I hunt after playing Change of Target on a hunt action?
  • Answer: Not with the same hunt action.

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