Thursday, April 19, 2012

Did you know, that ... (Part 90)

.. that an untapped vampire playing Familial Bond is tapped before the end of the action, the combat bound happen because Familial Bond will not take place?

Imagine the following situation: A vampire, with superior Obfuscate, let's say Evan Klein (with a Blithe Acceptance) is attempting to bleed. On the other hand a Laibon vampire, let's say Amavi, is trying to block the action, using the +1 intercept to match the +1 stealth of the bleed action. Then Evan Klein uses Faceless Night (at superior) to give the action an additional stealth. Amavi fails to block, and Evan Klein decides to let the action be successful (he needs to make that decision at this point because of Familial Bond). Evan Klein then bleeds successfully, but no combat occurs with Amavi after the resolution of the bleed.

But why is there no combat? There are two things which makes this transparent: At first it is the sequencing within the action. During resolution of the action the second effect of Faceless Night is applied, i.e. tapping the minions who attempted to block. After resolution of the action, the combat due to the effect of Familial Bond would occur. And here the second thing for understanding is that the cards require the reacting Laibon needs to tap in order to enter combat with the acting minion. But since he's already tapped by Faceless Night, he doesn't fulfill the necessary requirement for initiating the combat.

6 comments:

Y.Y. said...

I like the example. It's clear and easy to understand. However, it is also illegal. Familial Bond cannot be played during a hunt action.

Anonymous said...

you cannot use the family bond to intercept a hunt action, it can only be used on a D action against one of your minions or a bleed action against you.....

extrala said...

Thanks for catching the error!

I was simply looking for a cardless +1 stealth action. Hunting came to mind first, but I was forgetting about the requirement when Familial Bond can be used.

Anonymous said...

Does this means that a taped minion with On the qui vive cannot play fast reaction?

floppyzedolfin said...

@Anonymous: Sure.
On the Qui Vive (Wake with Evening's Freshness, Forced Awakening, ..) allows reaction cards to be played as if the reacting minion were untapped.
You can also play inferior Deflection with On the Qui Vive.

Joscha said...

The difference here is that you have to tap as a cost (regarding FB). "Tap to do X" always means, you have to be untapped before or you cannot pay the "cost". Do something and then become tapped is not a cost.