How to win with them
Threaten your predator into submission (i.e. he doesn't do anything against you). Usually you should be careful what kind of predator you let live. You need to kill a Stealth-Bleed/Powerbleed deck right away. When playing against Vote decks, you might need to kill one or two vampires w/ titles, to reduce the ability of the vote deck to dish out damaging votes. Toolbox decks or other combat decks which combat abilities you can trump, are no or only a small threat. Usually it's a good idea to show your strength by crippling one or two vampires of your predator, so he's both intimidated and busy while defending against his predator.
After having dealt with your predator, gun down your prey's minions next, reducing the number of minions he has, and try to reduce his pool by utilizing "Fame", "Tension in the Ranks" and/or "Dragonbound".
Pool management is critical in this deck, since it usually has little or no pool gain. Usual source are blood dolls, vampires are filled up again by using "Taste of Vitae". You pay little for your 3 to 4 minions, but the guns are costly, and these you definitely need. So if have 4 vampires with an average capacity of 4, you will spend an additional 2 pool per ".44 Magnum" which brings you down to 6 pool which is already really close to being ousted. So my general advice is, that you shouldn't influence out a minion unless you are able to pay a gun for him.
Crypt Composition
Generally there are two choices, either you use all avaible small- to mid-capacity vampires that have superior Celerity or you also add vampires with inferior Celerity and add some Celerity skill cards. The former version has the advantage that you need no additional setup, but on the other hand the average capacity is increased slightly. The later variant suffers from the need to setup and that it can use the Celerity combat cards not to it full extent, but the vampires are cheaper to influence.
Typical choices for both variants include "Sarah Brando", "Victor Tolliver" and "Jimmy Dunn", since they are cheapest vampires with superior Celerity (and without any disadvantages). Since all these are from group 2, you can go either with additional vampires from group 1 or group 3, depending on your preferences.
How to win against them
If you are the predator of a Cel Gun deck, then you have two choices:
- either try to oust the Cel Gun decks faster than it kills your minions
- make a non-aggresion pact to buy time for build-up
If you are playing a slower or toolbox deck, you need to convince the Cel Gun deck player not to attack. Promise a non-aggression pact for a couple of turns in order to build up. Then try to horde cards for a one or two turn oust, but make sure that the Cel Gun Deck is weakened (low on pool or does not have any rush cards in his hand) when striking. Usually the Cel Gun will attack immediately if you decide to go after him.
Silver bullets against Cel Gun
- "Centralized Background Check" -- increases the cost of weapons by one, i.e. making the "Concealed Weapon" card unplayable when used with ".44 Magnum".
- "Peace Treaty" -- makes the Cel Gun pay for its weapon a second time
- "Canine Horde" -- destroys equipment w/ first strike
If you are the prey of a Cel Gun deck, your best hope is that you an aggressive grand predator, which puts the Cel Gun into defensive, i.e. Cel Gun is rushing his minions, rather than yours. Try to help your grand predator, i.e. rescue his minions from torpor if possible.
Key Cards
- "Concealed Weapon" -- much needed to equip the weapon fast (and circumvent obnoxious wall decks).
- ".44 Magnum" -- the decks weapon, literally.
- "Psyche" -- the main combat card, especially to evade other combat cards like Strike:Combat Ends (i.e. "Majesty", "Earth Meld") or damage prevention ("Rolling with the Punches", "Skin of Steel").
- "Fame" -- the main card for ousting.
- "Celerity Gun" by Iñaki Jimenez -- basic version of the deck archetype.
- "Guns and Butter" by Colin Riggs uses also small cap vampires, sacrificing the superior Celerity to speedy influence and reducing the its vampires cost.
- "Marbellous" by Skaffen uses "Flesh of Marble" for damage reduction, but requires Protean (usually inferior) in addition, which narrows down the vampires usuable in the deck.
- "Weenie-Cel-DesertEagle by Dominic Bédard -- uses "Desert Eagle" and "Flash" (to compensate the missing maneuver).
- Second Guess Corral by Ben Peal -- adds an Auspex angle to give the deck a better (bleed) defense.
Legal Manipulations Tournament Winning Deck
Washington, D.C.
October 5th, 2002
13 players
Deck Name: Guns and Butter
Created By: Colin Riggs
Crypt: (12 cards, Min: 4, Max: 16, Avg: 2.50)
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2 Antoinette DuChamp cel pre 1, Caitiff
1 Carter cel 2, Toreador Antitribu
1 Kanya Akhtar cel 2, Assamite
2 Nik cel 1, Caitiff
2 Parmenides CEL qui 4, Assamite
2 Sarah Brando CEL 3, Brujah Antitribu
2 Victor Tolliver CEL pot 4, Brujah Antitribu
Library: (87 cards)
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Master (13 cards)
3 Blood Doll
3 Celerity
2 Dreams of the Sphinx
3 Fame
2 Haven Uncovered
Action (23 cards)
1 Arson
14 Bum's Rush
8 Computer Hacking
Combat (43 cards)
2 Blur
8 Concealed Weapon
2 Nimble Feet
13 Psyche!
8 Pursuit
5 Side Strike
5 Taste of Vitae
Equipment (8 cards)
8 .44 Magnum
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